Nutrition et HBP

Quelqu'un a-t-il des informations sur la manière dont la nutrition affecte l'HBP. J'ai commencé un régime à base de plantes il y a environ dix jours. Je ne le fais pas spécifiquement pour l'HBP, mais pour la santé globale et pour perdre du poids. J'ai lu qu'un régime à base de plantes ralentit le taux de cancer de la prostate, donc peut-être qu'il a aussi un certain bénéfice pour l'HBP.

I think there is a theory that anything that raises estrogen levels in men is responsible for prostate growth, but don't know much about it. With that in mind you might want to be careful of soy products.

Hi...all I know from an intelligent well meaning guy who was told from an mpMRI and digital discovery of a lump that he would not have long to live from aggressive prostate cancer (but without biopsy proof) decided to try intravenous vitamin c and ditch all carbohydrates and sugar and anything cow and ate 7 walnuts/day and pomegranite and 1 tea spoon tumeric with 1/4 teaspoon black pepper dissolved in coconut oil(dissolved increases uptake) along with heaps of greens for 3 months first before a biopsy and chose to have the suspicious area only biopsied with 2 needles came back as no cancer infact came back as white corpuscles which was the hoped for result based on the vitamin c suffocating the cancer cells and the white corpuscels doing a clean up job, he has unhypocritacly religiously kept to this diet and vitamin c and feels on top of the world for the last 21/2 years since the mpMRI.He now uses vitamin c sachets which is much cheaper but uses 8 sachets a day 3 days a week after gradually increasing it to that amount, remember though that he did not have biopsy proof of aggressive prostate cancer.ps prevoius to this diet he felt like garbage ang foggy thinking and difficult toilet issues but after 2 months things got much better and after 3 months felt like a new man and still does.

Voici un lien vers web md qui dit que le soja est bon pour la prostate.  Je ne sais pas, mais ça vaut le coup d'un coup d'œil.  Pour l'instant, je n'utilise pas de soja, mais j'utilise des graines de lin et du lait de lin.  Je pourrais essayer certains produits à base de soja éventuellement.  Je vois beaucoup de similitudes entre le traitement des maladies cardiovasculaires et le traitement de l'HBP.  Beaucoup d'approches chirurgicales, mais pas grand-chose en matière de prévention et de remèdes alimentaires.  D'après tout ce que j'ai lu, même avec une intervention chirurgicale pour l'HBP, la prostate continuera probablement à grossir et nécessitera une autre procédure.  Je ne suis pas contre le fait d'avoir une procédure et j'en aurai peut-être une dans un avenir proche, mais je ne veux vraiment pas la subir plusieurs fois.  Voici le lien sur le soja :

http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040924/soy-improves-prostate-cancer-outlook#1

BTW, il a été prouvé qu'un régime à base de plantes peut inverser l'accumulation de plaque dans les artères.  J'ai un ami qui peut témoigner de cela.  J'ai également lu qu'un régime à base de plantes peut améliorer la condition d'ED.  Hé, Tom Brady mange un régime à base de plantes et cela ne l'a pas empêché de jouer au football.  BTW - PAS un fan de Brady.

 

I am very interested in your post enquiring whether nutrition might positively affect BPH.

Six years ago I was suffering from urge incontinence during the day and severe nocturia during the night - waking three times at the very least.

While suffering a bout of constipation, I woke for my 2:00 AM pee and found myself with total urinary retention. I was catheterised on two separate occasions during the following nineteen hours and was in extreme discomfort.

I saw my usual GP on the Monday morning who gave me a DRE and a PSA blood test. Prostate was estimated at 40 grms but nothing unusual detected.

I received a phone call three days later informing me that my PSA was 30 ng/mg and that I had been referred to a urologist to investigate possible prostate cancer. The urologist was not at all perplexed and suggested that my high PSA was the result of a UTI, the DRE and the trauma caused by two catheterisations.

I was started on Finasteride and Doxazosin and my PSA plummeted... but so unfortunately did my sex life.

I tolerated Finasteride for six months and then dumped it for 5 mg daily Tadalafil. Symptoms of my BPH decreased considerably and I was leading a comparatively normal life again.

It was difficult to understand why others were not being similarly helped by this combination until I realised that the improvement really accelerated when I started a Ketogenic Diet (low carbohydrate, high fat).

If you do some diligent online research you will find powerful peer-reviewed literature describing the positive effects of depriving cancer cells (and even benign prostate cells) of glucose. I will leave it up to you to draw your own conclusions but for me the evidence is compelling.

Just a few words of caution. Tadafil is contraindicated with Doxazosin (an alpha-blocker) as it might cause hypotension in those with normal blood pressure. Fortunately it works for me.

Thanks for info, could be I saw something about Soy and Estrogen and it was not accurate. I don't eat much meat in general, didn't really help me - I don't think anyone knows for sure what causes prostate to grow, except it seems to be hereditary.

My PSA is generally about the same over the years except for between 2009 and 2010 when it doubled. I looked back into my notes and discovered that in 2009, I had many free all-you-can-eat buffets from a local casino. When I had a buffet, I  consumed lots of cheese pastries and yogurt parfaits. It must be the dairy + sugar + carb.

Hank

How much doxazosin are you taking with 5mg Cialis ? I was taking Finasteride with 4mg doxazosin. Three days ago I just replaced doxazosin with 5mg Cialis. So far, 5mg Cialis is not as effective as 4mg doxazosin. I will give the trial a week. Hank

From what I've read, high estrogen level increases risk of BPH as well as prostate cancer. Among top foods high in estrogen are beans, including soybean. Hank

On disait la même chose du cancer du sein.  Cela a été démenti.  Voir le lien ci-dessous :

http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/features/soy-effects-on-breast-cancer#1

Paul

Eat a healthy serving of broccoli every day.  Broccoli sprouts have the highest concentration of sulforaphane, which is one of the most prostate-friendly foods you can eat.  There are other members of the brassica family that can potentially help you, such as cauliflower and cabbage.  These are super foods in their own right, so you won't just be helping your prostate but, to use your words, your "overall health" as well.  You may also want to avoid all dairy, caffeine, and excess alcohol.  Hope this helps.

That is a cogent post, jackal.  I especially liked what you said regarding a relationship between glucose and cancer. It's true.  Robert Lustig, MD has a compelling video on Youtube called "Sugar: the Bitter Truth,"  in which he invokes John Yudkin's Pure, White and Deadly, written 45 years ago.  It's truly worth watching.  And now, I'd like to juxtapose two of your sentences:  "While suffering a bout of constipation" and "a Ketogenic Diet (low carbohydrate, high fat)."  Hope you're paying attention to the kinds of fat.  Moreover, if that fat is inextricably linked to protein, which most are, then something called the mammalian (a.k.a. mechanistic)Target Of Rapamycin (mTOR) can easily be overstimulated, thereby causing the oversecretion of IGF-1 - something we don't want.  Translation - ease up on the protein by easing up on the meat.  One of the biggest myths on the planet is that Diabetes Mellitus (Type 2) is caused by overconsumption of carbohydrates.   Type 2s are insulin resistant, not because of carbohydrates, but because - and this is an oversimplification - lipoproteins (especially the low density variety) make it difficult for blood glucose to be shuttled into cells where it is sorely needed.  The cruel irony is someone who suffers from morbid obesity, yet is malnourished because of insulin resistance.  T. Colin Campbell in his seminal work The China Study, looked at people from every walk of life in China.  Some of those provinces had inhabitants who had never tasted meat in their lifetime.  Results:  Cancer was an extremely rare disease for them.   We fear Kwashiorkor if we don't get enough animal flesh protein, yet the protein in animal flesh pales in comparison to the protein found in vegetables.  Finally, when we ingest meat, we're also ingesting xenoestrogens.  Not good, not good, NOT GOOD, especially for the prostate.  Just my two cents.

Oui, je suis actuellement sur un régime alimentaire à base de plantes. J'ai lu le livre "Mangez pour vivre" et j'ai été très impressionné par la logique et la raison. Par exemple, calorie pour calorie, le brocoli contient plus de protéines que le steak. Juste l'un des faits surprenants. Une ou deux fois par semaine, je mange du saumon, du flétan ou de la morue. Je mange une très grande salade pour le déjeuner avec de la laitue romaine et de nombreux autres légumes ainsi que des haricots. Je mange également trois portions de fruits par jour. En seulement deux semaines, j'ai perdu beaucoup de poids, je n'ai jamais faim ET je me lève rarement la nuit pour uriner. Ce style alimentaire peut ne pas convenir à tout le monde et il peut falloir un certain temps pour se débarrasser des graisses animales et des produits laitiers, mais jusqu'à présent, cela fonctionne pour moi et je pense que je peux manger de cette façon pour le reste de ma vie. Personnellement, je connais certaines personnes qui ont pu se passer de leurs médicaments contre l'hypertension, leurs médicaments contre le cholestérol et leurs résultats de pré-diabète montrent qu'il a disparu. Sûrement, avec tous ces changements, les bienfaits pour la prostate aussi.

Two of the major factors are race and family history.

Genetics is the major player, although poor health, eating habits, lack of exercise can compound the problem.

When males enter their 40's / early 50's, hormone fluctuations can be the source of many medical problems (including prostate issues).

If genetics is potentially working against you, then you have to be extra strict with a healthy lifestyle.

Healthy lifestyle is a constant "work in progress".

 

Just to add ► Searching for the highest incidence of prostate cancer was a list describing a French island, with predominately black males. It had the highest rate of prostate cancer, to the point it separated itself further then gradual margins from other countries.

Searching again led me to a article that seemed to explain the reasoning: The fruit on the island (grown? / eaten?), was being treated with a pesticide that seemed to be the cause of the large prostate cancer rate.

 

L'Agent Orange a également été associé à un risque accru de cancer et figure sur la liste des handicaps pour les anciens combattants du Vietnam.

Bien dit. Je suis tout à fait d'accord. J'ai eu un rendez-vous de suivi ce matin même après ma cystoscopie laser avec lithotritie et extraction de calculs (cystolithalopaxie). J'ai dit à l'urologue que j'avais commencé un régime à base de plantes il y a plusieurs semaines et que je me sentais beaucoup mieux. Il a dit que c'était bien, mais que le régime n'aiderait pas ma prostate ou n'empêcherait pas les calculs de revenir. Il a ensuite ajouté que personne ne sait vraiment ce qui cause les calculs ou même le cancer de la prostate. Eh bien, DÉSOLÉ, Doc, si personne ne sait vraiment, alors personne ne sait vraiment si le régime influence ces deux conditions. Désolé, Doc, on ne peut pas avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre. J'ai un rendez-vous de suivi dans 6 mois pour vérifier si les calculs sont revenus. Si c'est le cas, il est favorable à une TURP. Je lui ai dit que j'avais enquêté sur d'autres procédures et il est devenu très défensif, disant que les autres procédures sont toutes un moyen de gagner de l'argent pour les fabricants d'équipements, les études, etc. Il a dit que aucune d'entre elles n'avait atteint le standard d'or de la TURP. Je vais continuer à rechercher les alternatives à la TURP et continuer à manger mon régime à base de plantes. J'avais avec moi un CD avec mon IRM qui a été commandé par l'hôpital Inova la semaine dernière en prévision d'une éventuelle procédure PAE. Il ne voulait pas le regarder et ne voulait même pas qu'il soit mis dans le système. Étrange pour une personne dans le domaine de la science médicale et de la pratique de refuser délibérément des données. Mon expérience avec Johns Hopkins était la même.

Hi Alan THANKS! what you and others are saying all matches up with what I too have been hearing, this webb site is really great at helping us all to avoid sickness, loss of income, and even a horrible death, thanks to all who contribute their research and experiences.

Hi Vigneron...I am not surprised at the weak reaction you received from your turp urologist, my experience with them is disappointing to say the least and after studying turp If I were you I would be determined to find a safer option .

Thank you Alan for your considered and very helpful response to my meanderings.

I have not read Pure, White and Deadly but I will stick it on my reading list and watch Lustig's YouTube. I will also bone up on Xenoestrogens.

Regarding T. Colin Campbell's work, this is not without controversy and the China Project Myth (Minger D, 2012) amongst others, discusses the inherent selection bias and misrepresented data in supporting his various assertions.

Nevertheless, I believe that you and he are quite correct regarding the in-advisability of excessive meat ingestion. Unfortunately, in attempting to follow a true ketogenic diet I have frequently loaded up on meat when it's difficult to get fat from non-protein sources (think restaurant eating). Life ain't easy!

However, in suggesting a possible relationship between my improved BPH symptoms and LCHF I was hoping that fellow sufferers might be sufficiently predisposed to give it a shot. The only downside is that they might shed a few pounds in the process.

Jack