PIP - ¿Estoy confundido??? ¡ayuda!

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Hi everyone

Well I woke up this morning and my husband noticed £814.47 had been put in our bank from PIP?

Well I’ve had no letter to say I’ve been awarded anything, but from my calculations of waiting 14 weeks from start of my claim, the back pay would of been around £802 on LR Care, so is the back date?

Even more confusing after requesting a copy of the assessment report, it came through the post today, well I am even more confused because this is what I got on each descriptor, which will indicate the points I think it scores:

Daily Living

. Preparing Food - b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal (2 points)

. Washing and bathing - b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to wash or bathe (2 points)

. Managing toilet needs or incontinence - b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to manage toilet needs or incontinence (2 points)

. Dressing and undressing - b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to dress or undress (2 points)

Mobility

.Moving around - b. Can stand and then move more than 50 metres but no more than 200 metres, either aided or unaided (4 points)

The reason I am confused is because  on the planning a journey descriptor, I didn’t get anything, however the justification doesn’t match up because she is stating I do get anxious When going to new places and will need support, she feels sick and freighters.

Well to me that should be D - cannot follow a route of an unfirmiliar journey without another person, do you agree?

Should wait to see what’s been awarded and appeal?

I don’t know what to do!! Help please

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Hi,

Payment very often arrives in a bank account before the decision letter arrives. This is because it takes 3 working days for money to arrive in your bank from the day it's sent. Post being sent out from DWP is 2nd class and can take at least a week, sometimes longer. They usually go with the report so i think you points adding with the award you think you have is correct. If you want to know for sure what the award is then you can ring PIP and ask them.

Once you have the decision you have 28 days to ask for the Mandatory Reconsideration (MR) you'll need to put the request in writing stating what you disagree with and where you think you should have scored those points. Avoid mentioning the lies because they won't be interested in those. Send more evidence if you have it.

Also please remember that by asking for the MR you do risk losing everything you already have. It can also be increased or stay the same. Most MR decisions stay the same..only 20% of them change. Hope this helps.

 

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If I’ve read your post correctly, you’ve had £814 paid into your bank, a few more £s than you thought.

I would sit tight and say or do nothing. £814 is a lot of money. What do you want to appeal about? It’s more than you thought.

You might jeopardise your claim and lose the money by contacting them. Lots of people don’t get anything.

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Regardless of the amount, if an award has not been made for the descriptors it should have been awarded for, then I'd say appeal. Just being satisfied with what you get because some other people who are probably entitled don't get anything is not really a reason for Donna to accept a lower amount than she entitled to. It's about what is right and fair and if she thinks the award is lower than it should be then that is sufficient reason to appeal. She really needs to see the report and decision letter before deciding. I can understand people who are awarded nothing being put off the process of appealing having already jumped through hoops for nothing but to suggest to someone else who has had an insufficient and wrong award that they should accept it and be grateful is not helping anyone. The DWP make enough wrong decisions so saying people should be grateful for what they got is playing straight into the hands of the DWP. There's already a large number of claimants who are so worn down that they cannot go through the procedure of appealing. The DWP bank on this.

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Vicky

I think you have misread my post wrong, the £814 paid into our bank I would assume is a back payment for the 14 weeks I have waited and they have awarded me the LR of care, however I have not had any award letter as of yet.

I have just had the assessment letter as requested last week from DWP and the  descriptors just don’t justify to the statements she has written for each section especially the mobility part, that’s why I was asking of wether to appeal or not...

Yes some people don’t get awarded and I cannot comment on that, but I know how poorly I am and how it effects by day to day life and I know roughly what I should of been awarded and I don’t agree with the descriptors for the mobility side of things.

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Thank you

That explains a little of what I thought.

It’s the only mobility part I want to appeal against as they are conflicting on what has been put on the report and the descriptor scoring, plus I know I should get something in the following a route/ journey due to my mental illness.

The only concern is that I don’t want to appeal and then my decision be taken off me altogether as well as going through the whole process and stress, it’s not good for my anxiety at all! My depression is really bad at the moment too.

I need honest advice of what you would do in my situation?

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Unfortunately you can't just ask for one part of the award to be looked at again. When asking for the MR they will look at the whole award again NOT just part of it.

You say you score 4 points in moving around part, can stand and move 50 metres but no more than 200 metres? Are you claiming for physical health or just mental health?

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Just re-read your first post again. All the points you scored for daily living tell me that you claim for physical health yes? This is because you scored the points for needing to use and aid or appliance.

You also say that you suffer from anxiety and depression? yet i don't see any points at all scored for this. The aids and appliance scoring is for physical health not mental health.  Did you explain fully how your mental health affects you as well as your physical health?

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Hi Denise

I claimed for Fibromyalgia, anxiety and depression.

They concentrated on my fibromyalgia when asking me the questions in the assessment. My mental health only came into it when she asked about how I cope in social situations, in which I told her I do mix with other people or go out in places I don’t know as I get anxious and I always go out with my husband or someone I know well. I did it was not fair on not being bothered about how it effects me.

I just think the assessment was slightly different to what I told her, these were on the social situations and mobility part, the rest was all true and literally what we had discussed.

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I don’t think she mentioned mental health issues, as she says she goes out and mixes with people

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Vicky

Who are you referring to? 

I have not mentioned anything about going out with and mixing with people??? And I’ve just mentioned my mental health issues.

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I meant to say I do mix with other people but only people I know and I don’t go to places I do not know.... sorry

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You say you don't go out with anyone but your husband or someone you know well? do you ever go anywhere alone?  Did you have a home assessment or go to them? did someone go with you? 

What about the other PIP descriptors for mental health like engaging with others face to face, making budgeting decisions?

My concern is, you've only just scored 8 points, which is bang on Standard daily living. Any points lost would totally wipe out the award you already have, however it's rare for the decision to change at MR stage BUT it has been known to happen. People have gained and lost points at this stage.

Did you send evidence to support your claim for all of your conditions? or did you just concentrate on the physical conditions?

No one can tell you what to do, only you can decide this. How long has the HCP recommended the award is for? It should state a recommendation in the report.

All i can tell you is that i was in a very similar situation to you when i first applied for PIP. 4 years or so ago i was awarded Standard for both and i claim for physical health and not mental health. I scored 10 points at the time for mobility and was very angry i lost those 2 points. I knew i couldn't walk as far as she said i could but after a long hard think about decided that what i'd already had was too much to lose, so i didn't ask for the MR. This is me and you're not me. My award at the time was for 3 years, review at 2 years. Remember reviews are done 1 year before the award is due to end.

A PIP award can increase your entitlement to means tested benefits, if you claim any...do you? or do you work?

It's a risk asking for the MR but if that decision stays the same there's NO risk taking it to Tribunal. A Tribunal MUST warn a claimant if they plan on lowering or removing an existing award. This then gives the claimant the opportunity to cancel the Tribunal, keeping the award they already have.

It's a long process but definitely a decision that only you can make. Hope this helps.

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Thank you vicky but i think it's better if Donna answers my questions rather than you. After all it's Donna's claim and not yours. The only person that knows Donna here, is herself. Thank you though.

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I thought this was an open forum, not just a select few

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I never said it was anything different, thank you but as it's Donna's PIP claim, only she knows herself not anyone else. I don't know how you can possibly answer her questions for her. I know i possibly couldn't.

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Donna,  You say you mix with people you know but not those you don't know. What about when you go out? Do you ever go anywhere alone, if you do how often do you go out alone? Did you also go to the assessment alone? The reason i'm asking is because following and planning a journey descriptor is a very difficult descriptor to gain points for.

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Donna you state quite clearly that you do mix with people and go out

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Denise

i only suggested that she do nothing as she said she got more money than she thought she would get.

​“thank you Vicky, but I think it’s better Donna answers my questions rather than you. It’s donnas claim not yours”

​Fair enough, you then said “I don’t know how you can possibly answer her questions for her. I know I possibly couldn’t”

Sorry, but you’ve said it’s better if Donna answers your questions and not mine, but then you say you couldn’t possibly answer her questions.

Either you can answer her questions or you can’t.

 

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read the report first then think about it , always take your time and keep calm as you will get what you need at the end ,