I have used 5 treatments of Permethrin and one of Malathion. I have been using sulphur soap for months. All seem to help at first but then it comes back. I saw an expensive private dermatoligist who said "There is no evidence of live scables" (We have moved into an old house in November and it started then)... not sure if this could be relevant, but I know someone else who got it after moving into an old house, but this seems to defy what the professionals say is possible. We have just been away for 3 weeks and it cleared up; we have been back 4 days and I have 4 new tracks. I keep reading that the mites can't live for more than 76 hours wihtout a human host, so how come they are back when we have been gone for 3 weeks? They are an exact replica of scabies pictures. I thought of getting an exterminator in, but not sure what I am dealing with if it isn't scabies. Can anybody suggest why this could be happening in this way? HELP! Many thanks if you can throw any light on this; or suggest anything else it could be other than scabies so at least I can try other solutions...
Hi Marylin,
it's has been my fist scabies treatment so I am unsure wether I can help you or not ... Mites should not survive more than 3-4 days without a human host. I heard nonetheless that some scabies resist the treatment, adapt, and can actually stay in your body longer. I am not doctor, so...
In France, you get pills that are much more effective than cream, I heard (I had to put permethrin cream 3 times already). Moreover, it is recommended to use a special spray or powder to clean all your textile in the house, this includes rugs, armchairs and sofas, as well as your matress, and clothes that can't be washed at 60 degrees. You put the powder in the plastic bins and let the stuff 3 days. You should also change bedlinen, towels, clothes daily up to 14 days after the treatment
Well in the UK all the chemists would tell you that the spray doesn't help as it doesn't kill this type of acarians but as far as I know there is less scabies in France than in the UK... So it might help to get rid of it.
I am still waiting for the spray (sent by family,lost by the postmail) so will tell you if it's effective... If I were you, I would also check up that it can't be anyelse carefully because the diagnostic is sometimes hard. And will take extra care of the matress. If it's infested, it has to be treated. I caught it from a bed at the hospital in france....
Good luck with your treatment,
Marie
Did u have scabies, a positive diagnosis from a doc?
Thanks Marie for tryign to help... My real issue is how did they survive for 3 weeks without a host whilst I was away? That is what has got me completely confused...I have only been back 4 days and the tracks are back!
Yes, but when I returned after teh cream didn't work they were confused, so I went to a private dermatologist who said there was no evidence of live scabies... she couldn't tell me what the tracks were though...and they look exactly the same
it's weird. Are you sure they disappear when you go away ? Can't it something else ? bedbugs instead ? Or tiques ?
Yes they compeltley cleared up after a week of being away... I have looked up bedbugs and apaprnelty they don't make tracks like burrows on the skin. I don't know about tiques though.. what are they?
ticks are also acarians that go under your skin, but usually catch dog and not humans, also humans can be a target . If it goes whan you leave then it means it's maybe not scabies especially if the treatment does not help. I am surprised because bedbugs leaves very similar spots to scabies, mosquitoe like bites on the skin... Good luck
I just looked up tiques... they are bites as opposed to burrows... thanks for trying though.. Here's an image
it does not look like my scabies spots. ... You definitely need to see a good dermatogist again !
Apparently it's the itching and the fact that they bleed so much that gives it away...here's another picture.. I have been taking them all the time to keep a record of it.. it actuallly drives you nuts! Maybe the photos will alert someone to tell me what it is if it isn't scabies...
Those just dont look like scabies marks. I agree they are odd for sure. You say they itch? Do any others you are close with have anything on them?
Here the other thing, how could they get back on you, hatch and leave track marks in the amout of time? I say get a skin scraping or culture to shed light on it.
I only live with my husband and he doesn't have any. However, he has ichthiosis and bugs never bite him. It's a good point about the timings though.. maybe what I have is the female's tracks who hasn't hatched yet? I think a skin scraping is crucial now. Many thanks. Marilyn
Hi! I'm sorry this is happening to you. I first wanted to clear up a few things because many of the people posting are new to the situation. 1. Just as people have acne that looks different than others acne, scabies will present in the same way. We all respond differently to scabies! This is one reason it is so hard to diagnose. Classic scabies symptoms are not present on everyone and perhaps as few as 30% of people are lucky enough to have the classic symptoms. 2. Doctors, including Dermatologists don't know much about scabies. They know what they read on the CDC website ( they rely on the cdc for info and in turn the cdc relys on doctors for info, so no real help is available through the so called experts). Please be aware that most scabies are resistant to the pesticides that are prescribed. I tried the a few different exterminators, treating the inside and outside off home, they didn't help. We have to be active in doing our own research, because noone is really concerned if your itchy, it's not life threatening until you become so itchy you become suicidal because noone can help you! (Sarcasm/ Reality) I have been suffering for 2 years. I do think you have scabies. I know they can live a long time without a host. My suspision is that they go into hybrination mode to stay alive while the host is gone. I was very active in my fight, but gave up when I found a treatment that made my situation liveable. You see, I have tried almost every treatment out there with the exception of Ivermectum( I am scared of it). I found a treatment that works temporarily( about 1 week on average. I treat every Sunday night to eliminate the itch.) so I have postponed finding a cure. After spending almost a year straight of cleaning, I couldn't do it anymore.( but do wrap your bed in plastic to reduce their numbers) I also think there are to many of them in my house( old house also) so I am waiting until its paid off to buy a new home. I hope noone else ever gets to this point, but the truth is I have came across other suffers that have been suffering for 20 yrs. My treatment is based off of a study done in Australia.( Please look it up if you want to try it.) It is clove oil mixed with cocunut oil. The cocunut oil is not part of the treatment it is the carrier oil. Clove can not be put sraight on the skin, it will burn your skin off!!! Be very careful when handeling it! Add 6% Clove oil to whatever amount cocunut oil you need. Remember when you calculate. find, what is 6% of --- FLUID ounces. Don't forget the fluid part. My Particular recipe is 1.8ml to 1U.S. fluid oz. ( 6% is actually 1.7888 oz, but i round up. I do not recommend rounding up until you know your skin can tolerate the treatment.) I have not perfected the treatment, obviously, or it would be a cure I have came across others who said this did not work for them. As I said earlier, everyone is different. Maybe I got lucky and bought the right clove oil and their clove oil was no good or something. I plan to try other clove oil brands to see if I can find a cure. I also think if I treated more it may work. I have tried every 3 days without success. I am in agreement with other sufferers that a treatment needs to be done everyday for possibly 1 month. Outside of the home( which is nearly impossible for everyone.) Long term treatment doesn't bother my skin it actually makes it soft, except that one time my mix was wrong and it burned my skin! Good luck to you and I pray you get rid of them.
*** obviously I am not a doctor and by law can not give out medical advice. This is just my personal experience. See your doctor and if that fails do your own research and find a treatment that is right for you!
Hi Marilyn
I read your posts and saw the photos. One thing to check is whether you are shedding any debris from your skin. try using something like a facial toner for example a liquid rather than a cream on a piece of cotton wool and wipe over areas which are a bit itchy and check if there's anything on the cotton wool it's just an idea at the moment. Also try putting on a greasy hand chream and rub your hands together for a time until it's absorbed and then look to see if it's brought aything out on the surface after a while..
Let me know if anything happens
stella.
I am so grateful to you for bothering to write all this... I started to wonder whether I should be researching something else when I read the other posts...I checked images on the other suggestions and mine don't look like it at all, but they look very like scabies photos on line. I have been trying to find a researcher on the subject to try and get them to talk to me, but there appears to be nobody out there... someone else I know got it after moving into an old property, so it could be osmethign to do with that.. maybe disturbing them wakes them up likes fleas... apprently fleas can lay dormant for years and then come to life if movement starts..Thank you for your suggestion, I will give it a go, but to be honest, the itching isn't as bad these days, it;s now the feeling that soemthign is crawling about under my skin that stops be sleeping.. I start thinking about it and just lay there... you don't realise what it can do until you get it.... Thank you so very much for bothering...
OK will do...
Hi,
Does it feel like you have something crawling in your hair ( no not nits,) just the feeling of crawling and sometimes elsewhere, your back maybe just strange sensations... also have you ever felt like something has stung you or like sharp pricking sensations ?
Stella
I do feel like osmethign is crawling in my hair, but there is no sign of any tracks at all in my scalp (and I haven't treated it either)... Yes I have felt prickling sensations, but didn't put it down to this... are you researching???