Hi folks, I'm wondering what people are experiencing with external rotation? How far can you move your arm out to the side when the elbow is bent at 90 degrees by your side? Does it move at all, does it pivot properly? If it resolved for you, what was it like, how long did it take? Where do you feel pain if you cannot move your arm out to the side? Does it hurt to run?
the other position I'm wondering about is external rotation in abduction, ie, can you put your arms up against the wall behind you, like you are being arrested? As you got better, Did one of these movements return faster than the other?
many thanks for sharing your experiences.
When I move my elbow out with my elbow by my side I can hardly do it at all.I definitely can't put them behind my back to connect.I had my surgery on Jan. 23 of Jan. Of this year. 2017
I'd like to hear this as well from peeps further along than me. I am alomst 3 weeks post op, I did have two ligaments removed as well as scare tissue removed and my Side rotation with elbow bent is minimal, the external rotation is non exsistant! 😩
La rotation externe est la dernière à s'améliorer. Je suis post-opératoire d'une ACR et d'une MUA depuis 7 mois et la seule chose qui me reste à faire pour être à 100 % est le coude plié et le fait de lever mon bras, comme mettre du déodorant et mettre mon bras derrière mon dos.
mon bras revient lentement. mon médecin a dit que cela pourrait prendre jusqu'à 6 mois pour atteindre 100 %. Je fais des exercices avec mon kiné et je la vois une fois par semaine.
lentement mais sûrement, ça revient
Bonne chance et tiens bon
Sue
Je devrais dire... j'ai eu une capsulite rétractile depuis juin 2016.....
Pas d'opération - et la rotation externe a commencé à revenir d'elle-même environ 10 mois après le début de mon parcours FS, à raison de 1 mm à la fois, et a pris plusieurs mois et n'est toujours pas à 100 % et continue de regagner de l'amplitude 2 ans plus tard (3 ans de parcours total pour le bras gauche). Je me souviens du moment où j'ai essayé de tordre mon bras gelé (droit, pendent à mon côté) dans la socket et où j'ai vu la partie avant de mon coude tourner effectivement de 1 mm - cela m'a semblé un miracle et j'ai enfin pu commencer à croire que je pourrais peut-être vraiment décongeler - comme les médecins et les kinésithérapeutes me l'avaient dit. Pendant si longtemps, il avait été bloqué avec 0 mm de rotation. Ce fut un point tournant (excusez le jeu de mots) et m'a donné beaucoup d'espoir, et cela continue de s'améliorer depuis - bien que j'aie encore eu de la faiblesse et des douleurs intermittentes et que je doive être vraiment prudent dans la façon dont je l'utilise.
That's promising, and interesting to hear! The strange thing for me, is that my arm does rotate in the socket, and I can get my arms up on the wall behind me in a 90 degree angle ( or lying on the floor), but it will barely move out to the side when elbow is bent. Extreme pain, and the therapists and doctors are confused by this strange limitation when I have almost 100percent in all other directions. It's good to hear that it will return eventually I guess. Although I had three surgeries so it isn't idiopathic.
Thanks for your note. I am 4 months post release and wonder if I will get there by six!! The rotation feels like a real block. Instead of pivoting at the elbow like the other arm, it seems to slide outwards two inches before starting to rotate and its excruciating.
mmmm... au moins vous avez des documents et des thérapeutes qui vous suivent. Et c'est super de savoir que vous avez une telle bonne amplitude de mouvement dans les autres directions. Tout le monde est différent, mais cela semble étrange que vous ayez une amplitude de mouvement dans les autres plans mais pas dans celui-ci. Peut-être demander un scanner au cas où il se passerait autre chose ? ou est-ce normal après une opération si vous avez eu 3 chirurgies ?
Hi sue l have had frozen shoulder for 2 years nearly but l did smash my wrist then had a fall February 2016 spoke to my specialist about the time scale of it getting better if l had manipulation he said it would be about 3 weeks faster than if l let nature take its course .Ihave decided not to have manipulation as l think l have suffered enough pain.I do try to go swimming at least twice a week and I find this helps me personally quite a lot.I have to go back to see my specialist in June when l reckon he will discharge me. Hope all goes well for you.
J'ai subi ma chirurgie le 15 décembre 2016, j'ai retrouvé la plupart de mes mouvements, sauf le bras derrière mon dos et c'est un peu douloureux lorsque je ramène mon bras gauche en travers de mon corps, mais j'ai aussi un problème avec un disque dans mon cou, donc jusqu'à ce que cela soit résolu, cela ne sera probablement plus jamais pareil.
Hi sean66 l have quite a lot of movement now can't really get my arm behind my back when l went to see a private doctor in Feb this year he said it really doesn't seem that you have much movement at all as far as getting it behind my back.l do find that l have a lot of pain down my left side and around my chest it was my left wrist and shoulder that l broke l was told that in July which will be two years that l did my wrist that l should have much better movement .myself like you don't hold much hope but l am still doing swimming twice a week and l find that helps me .good luck Sean hope l works out for you.
It seems a lot of people have trouble with the side rotation. Are you gaining range in other directions? By 3 weeks postp I had 100% forward flexion, and could get my hand halfway up behind my back, but absolutely no external rotation. Now taht I am 15 weeks postop I have very good behind-the-back (can reach my opposite scapula without any help from the other hand), but I only have about 10 degrees of external rotation at the side!!! I can however, put both arms on the floor in a 90 degree angle (ie, the arrested position). i worked really hard at that every day with a 2 pound weight.
Hiya after reading others experiences, thank you, it would seem it is def a matter of time and loads of excercises!!! It is so good to share experiences, good to know that there are many others out there struggling to wash their arm pits! Lol ! Much love and sympathy to all of those peeps suffering xx
No surgery no PT. I elected to let it run its course naturally. After 1 yr from the start I can do both moves. Those two were the last to get back.
Il semble que vous souffriez d'un problème purement mécanique. Si c'était la capsule d'une épaule gelée, la littérature indique que vous ne perdez jamais plus de 70 pour cent de la rotation externe. Si certains mouvements reviennent sans les autres dans la même proportion, ce n'est pas la capsule, je pense. Cela laisserait l'idée que la cause de la perte est, par exemple, une cicatrice dans les tissus mous à l'avant de l'épaule. Faites en sorte que le thérapeute mobilise la tête de l'humérus de manière à étirer les tissus raccourcis.
Yes, I'm seeing an osteopath who seems to really get in there and rip the front of the shoulder. it's pretty frustrating. I know i can't have just 'part of a fozen shoulder'... it's all or nothing, but the doctor kept on that trend for sooo long! I'm very anxious for a diagnostic ultrasound in 4 weeks' time but getting impatient because even after that, I fear I will be waiting more time for a diagnosis (if at all). It would seem strange to me that just a bit of deep tissue release is going to fix this problem but it is nice to keep up the hope.