add your solutions to Perimenopause symptoms!

Hoping to help a few women by starting a discussion on concerns we have with symptoms of Perimenopause.  I'm a year into this and have read the average woman has Perimenopause for 4 years on the average.    My symptoms keep changing and so I am starting this discussion or group for those who would like to post their successes with symptoms and how they reduced them.  

Kind of a discussion/moral support forum.  

Please post your  experiences  and hopefully there will be someone who can help you or someone you can help. 

 

I have had a lot of sympotoms stomach issues urine inssues I do physical exercise to help with my stoool and urine issues. I did try HRTs but that was is out now because of the bleeding i went through, and i did try nuronton for anxieties but it made me so tired and weak so went off that. I am on my ativan to help with anxieties, and a higher dose of trazodone to help with sleep, I am taking two blood pressure pills to help keep me blood pressure down and heart rate down too, i take a multivitamin and vitamin d3 and a thyroid pill for low thyroid. My phsych doctor wants me to go on paxil but i don't think i want another antidepressant for trazodone is an antidepressant so why take two. 

I do get counciling for my depression and anger issues and that helps too. 

I am thinking about doing a yoga class to help reduce stress 

This is all i am doing for my sympotoms and i am just trying to stay positive because its the change and i just have to accept that my body is going through the change 

I also eat a lot of protien like Chicken, and fish once in a while pasta i am on metformin to keep my sugars down and i try to eat fruit and vegies 

I walk a lot and try to get my proper rest i learn relaxation and ways to cope in life its hard but i do it and for a lot of women who suffer from depression and anxieties while in menopause this is what they need to do 

Also one thing i am learning, please do not worry about your health because the more you worry the more anxious you make yourself. Just let your body do the changing and don't worry if you have cancer or you think you do or something is wrong because that just putting negative thoughts into your mind and us women do not need that we need to think positive and just let our bodies change with time 

Trish,

  What a wonderful thread for discussion.  I had a horrible time in perimenopause, and while I am completely beyond that at 58 and menopausal, I certainly remember the experience.  I thought I might share my experience since I am on the other side.

I was 42 1/2 when all this started.  Oddly, when I turned 40, my body was doing something a little different but in a good way.  It seemed that I became toned, thin, with full hair, plenty of energy and I felt great.  I remember thinking, "If this is aging, bring it on."  But I quickly learned to be careful what you ask for, because within a couple years I was begging for help.  

My very first odd experience was standing on a csoccer field and I noticed that my left foot got a strange buzzing sensation, then my left arm went completely numb.  But the next symptom was a major downer.  After a shower one day, I brushed my hair and it was literally falling out by the handfuls.  That brush was completely covered with hair.  This happened on day 9 of my cycle.  At that point I started looking for some answers.   The following month, I had the first ever migrain headche, agin on day 9 of my cycle.  My periods were bouncing all over the place.  I had always been very regular with periods every 28 days.  But that was now a thing of the past.  Sometimes, it would be 23, then 31, sometimes normal and other times with clots and heavy.  I had one that lasted ten days.  I wasn't sleeping well and experienced night sweats that would have my gown soaked.   None of this was a picnic.   Honestly I was completely miserable.  

I read like crazy and tried to see the "best of the best" of physicians, who might be able to help get me straighten out.  I tried several birth control pills that, all to no avail.  Loestrin literally had me shaking like a leaf and crying at 3:00pm every afternoon.  I tried bio identical hormones, and again, it was simply awful.  I literally flew to Detroit from the midwest, to see a doctor that seemed to have vast knowedge on hormone replacement.  He had me taking estrogen injections, and that didn't work well either.  As I said, I tried for two years to feel better, but nothing worked.  I finally gave up.  It took my body a while to get back into a pattern.  So for the next 8 years I did it on my own.   And actually felt pretty normal.

My periods came less and less when I reached 50.  One every two months, then one every six months, unti my last  at age 52 1/2.   Oddly enough when this occured I barely noticed a thing.  No hot flashes, nothing.  I did however get into lower back pain, frozen shoulder, and eventually body wide chronic muscle and ligament pain.  Then five years after menopause, developed vaginal atrophy an dryness.    I am now trying once again to reestablish my hormones.  

But what I learned, at least for me, is that in perimenopause, your hormones are bouncing around BIG TIME.  Somedays you make plenty and others not so much.  

(Try to look at some of the charts that have been done on perimenopausal hormones.  It's a wild ride with highs and lows of huge swings.)   It's these wide swings that create all these symptoms that make us uncomfortable.   If I had to do it over again, what I would focus on is life style, diet, vitamins, sleep and reducing stress, to help myself feel better.   At least for me, trying the hormone therapy didn't work well in perimenopause.  I was all over the board and they simpy made it worse.  

So my suggestion to any woman in perimenopause is to start taking it as easy as you can.  Eat a very healthy diet with plenty of good oils, protein and lots of fresh greens.  Take a good multivitamin and drink plenty of water.  Crawl in bed by ten o'clock every night and give your body time to relax and recover.  Excersice, but don't over due it, as this uses up those biochemicals we can make.  

There's no doubt this is a time of great change.  I would also suggest that woman get a complete panel done of their hormones.  Even though it is common for them to come back all in normal range, this can later be used to help you down the road.

So get your FSH, sensitive estradiol, free and total testosterone, progesterone, and a complete thyroid panel (TSH, T-4, T-3).  Days 2 -4 and also 21-13 of your cycle  would be most helpful.  It will show you how your estrogen is starting at the beginning of the cycle and if you are ovulating (producing progesterone) or not.

Good luck and I hope my experience can be of help. 

 

Good luck to you you are doing the right stuff too. 

Wow wonderful discussion.

ive been peri eight years and wont bore you with symptoms but ive had them all still do.

This reply is amazing. Just accept what your body is doing and be kind to urself.

I really am so grateful for this site and all the ladies.

So good to hear from someone who has come through the other side and made it.

Sime days I wondered if I woild.

Thanks again for your wirds of encouragement and hope.

God bless you x

God bless you too

Hi good topic!

i am 52 and haven't had a period for 2years! The flushes i can cope with but the tiredness is so hard to cope with, i have no energy!

 I am also b12 deficient and have injections every 3 months! When i explained symptoms to doc, he felt i was suffering from depression, as i had a bout of it last year!

 I also gave up alcohol nearly 5 years ago, as i was using it to self medicate!

so now i face my symptoms head on! This is why i feel i suffered with depression as i don't have wine to mask everything!

 I just wish i knew are these symptoms menopause, b12 deficieny, or good old depression! 

PS, i do spend a lot of time in bed, (which makes me feel depressed!)

i'd be grateful for any advice!

This is a great idea for a discussion.  I see so many similarities in the thread here and that in itself  is reassuring.  I went through peri without realising it as my life was a mess anyway.  Any about 18 months ago everything went down hill fast.  Bladder issues, anxiety, then periods stopped. Around xmas 2014 I felt like I had been hit by a train.  Terrible bladder probs, UTS, sickness, dizzyness, flashes, night sweats, tingling hands, aching knees, thinning hair, vaginal soreness and dryness, loss of appetite and headaches.  I did not know what was wrong with me until a woman at work said I may be menopausal.  I read up about it, by the way I had been to the Doc several times and no one even appeared to think of it, and promptly went to Docs got full bloods and hormones and right bang in meno.  All else was fine.  I tried natural stuff but no use.  I was miserable and thought I was dying!! I went to Docs got referred to gyne and had some investigations and went on HRT.  I have never looked back since.  I also was prescribed mybegron for bladder and beta blockers for off the scale anxiety.

NOw I am 85% better and I can manage that.  I still have some bladder issues, knees can be sore and I have the odd night sweat.  I eat well, high protein, low carb and no refined/processed food.  Lots of water, no caffiene or alcohol.  I exercise hard 3 times per week, get plenty sleep and fresh air.  I take supplements to maintain general health and joint health.  What I have found is I can now manage my symptoms better.  I don't think I am seriously ill and I know that it will all pass.  Laugh as much as you can ladies.XXXX

Hi Trish

all ladies differ so much..

i was ten years in peri and now almost 2 years post menopause and age 51 ..

we are all born with a set amount of eggs and when they are gone theyre gone 😄

i began early aged 39-40 my mothet also did - she was different again as my mother was post menopause at age 44 .. 

Neither of us took HRT 

jay x

 Hi Susan if you don't mind, can I recommend flax oil supplements. They're supposed to help greatly with the cheek and mood swings. I'm thinking you may have some fatigue also with the depression. And perhaps  flax may help. 

what a great, positive post, Susan. Yes, keeping positive, and not worrying helps the body to cope better with what's going on. I try to do the same. I walk loads, and just try to keep going. One day, it will all be behind us. x

Susan, I am assuming that you are on bioidentical hormones?  

Do you mind sharing your experience.  This isn't easy getting

homrones back into the system after all these years, but I really

need to do this.  

Any help would be appreciated.

No I am not on biodentical hormones, I was only taking Estadiol 1mg and Provera 2.5mg which i had to stop due to bleeding plus i had to stop my nurontin due to the fact that it was not helping me with my anxieties and i was more restless and agitated and my blood pressure was always going up. 

I am not on any HRTs at all due to the fact that i have problems with blood pressure, diabetes, and low thyroid and my doctor and i agree it messes up your blood pressure, diabetes and thyroid. 

All i am taking right now is two blood pressure pills Losartan, and Amlodipine, Ativan 1 mg in the morning with my two blood pressure pills a metformin for diabetes and a vitamin d3 also in the morning i take my levothyroxine 3 hours before breakfast and a pepcid an hour before breakfast, than at dinner i take Ativan 1/2mg with my multivitamin and a metformin, and at bed time i take 1mg of ativan and trazodone for sleep and anxieties 

I am not on any HRTs and with having blood pressure problems diabetes and a thyroid problem I am not going to go back on HRTs 

This is the only stuff i need to keep things under control because HRTs do not really solve the problem with menopause it may help reduce the symptoms but we need to learn about how to deal with menopause and our bodies because medication is not the answer to all our problems. 

Yes HRTs help reduce symptoms but think of the side effects it can give a women just like other meds give side effects 

Think about that. What we need to learn is to not get our selves so stressed out and upset and relax and let your body just change in time 

I am hoping to just carry on without HRT....reading on here about how much it messes up the body's balance of everything, I would like to steer clear.

 

Ladies,

I had to stop and think for a moment if I wanted to try to add to ths discussion.  Please understand that I am not pushing one way or another, but I just want to add another view to this topic.  I have always been involved with woman's health care issues and read constantly.  Not just authors on the topic but also many medical studies.  

The thing that I would want to point out is that menopause is the complete loss f one of our hormones systems.  All of our hormones communicate with one another, support one another and work together.  While the sex steriod system is not a major hormones system, and therefore it's loss won't immediate kill you,  it does mess with other hormone systems.  This is why woman in menopause often have problems with thryoid, become type two diabetics, or have adrenal issues.  Etrogen, progesterone and testosterone support those other systems.   I have read and also been told by an endrocrinologist, that without estradiol in the system, it is offen immpossible to regulate insulin for diabetic woman.  

The discussion of menopause and hormone replacement, just isn't as easy  as saying it is something we can "get through" and "get over with".

And prolonged estrogen defeniency creates problems that sometimes come years down the road.  For me  vaginal atrophy and dryness didn't set in until I was about 4 years out.  That is not something I want to continue, as it can be more than just slightly uncomfortable.  For some woman it can be dibilitating.  And this is where woman get into bladder issues, infections, or the insertion of mesh.  As I got into menopause, I also watched my cholesterol profile change.  I wasn't do anything different with diet and I was moving all the time.  But as we lose estradiol, this is what happens.  All studies show that with adequate estrogen replacement our cholesterol profile will reverse back to normal.  And trust me, I will never take a statin drug.   And don't ge me started at what happens to heart attacks in woman past menopause, cause it isn't pretty.  We then have heart attacks just like men, once we lose our estradiol.  

I get it that everyone got scared with the Woman's Health Inititive study.  But the only hormone "drugs" used in those studies were Premarin and Prempro.  Both of those are not the hormones our bodies used to make, they are synthetic.   It isn't fair to compare what a bioidentical hormone can/will do based on horse urine that is a foreign substance to our bodies. 

Do I think that every woman should take hormones after menopause? Heavens no.  But I do believe that you should understand that every woman's body might have it's own risk factors that might make hormone replacement important to protect their overall health.   But I'm not talking about the cookie cutter approach that we have taken in this country.   

What I am saying, is that there seems to be philosophy that all hormones are bad, and that we should just get through it.  No one challenges a woman taking the hormone insulin.  No one suggests that a woman shouldn't take another hormone, thyroid.  No one suggests that an Addison's or Cushings patient shouldn't use hormones.  So please don't feel you are being brave or just following the natural course, if you find that the loss of your estrogen is causing havic in your life.  I have known many woman who feel that bioidentical hormones, used correctly, are the best thing they have done for their health.  

I don't mean to offend anyone or to take issue with your personal choice. Just something else to think about.   

 

  

Hiya

While im not diasagreeing with what you say I do find all this fir and against advice confusing. ....... after all menopause is a natural transition that every woman has to go through so therefore are our bodies not designed to deal with this change?

I have been in perimenopause eight years and have had really awful symptoms. Im 48 my gp has suggested I dont have hrt just yet.

But it still confuses me as to why we need to treat a natural occurrence in life with drugs.

Again im not suggesting we shouldn't I was forced to go on an AD as the anxiety and depression got too much.

Would love to hear someone elses view. Can we survive this transition naturally? ????

Hi gailannie 

totally relate to what you say ..

i my mid peri phase i was told i had higher cholesterol and borderline type 2 diabetes .. Which shocked the doctor as i am very slender 125lb and was fit and ate well and exercised ..

but now post meno these are okay again..

but ... Now i am Vit D deficient and have to take supplements ( again vit D is also a hormone )

i only use estriol vaginal ovules ( ovestinon) for my vaginal dryness which also reverses it and keeps urethra also healthy ...  gyno suggested this and been using a year almost with great results ..

jay x

  

Forgot to say 

the premarin and prempo and also premique, prempak C etc are actually equine HRT made from pregant mares urine ( horses) 

Pre = pregnant mare 

jay x

 

I too have Vit B12 injections .. 

I have weekly ones as i get reoccurring shingles 😩

Jay x

H jay

Have you gone through without using hrt?

Would love to know as im eight years in.

no hrt as yet cause no matter how bad it gets im still trying to do it naturally.

So much evidence for and againstx