Anxiety or heart related?!

Mental health
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Hi I'm new here ! I'm 27 years old mother of two! In the past two years I have dealing with the chest pain palpitations ! I've done a lot of ekg,heart ultrasound,blood work,stres test and ct scan 2yeArs ago everything came back clear! My doc relates everything to anxiety and prescribe medicantions but I feel like they are missing somethings! Recently I'm feeling so week,tired from

The moment I wake up till I sleep.bp and hr normal! I'm wearing the event monitor for 10 days and till now Doctors haven't seen something abnormal! I don't know what is going on with me?

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anxiety

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Exactly, AnXIETY! You must have had some idea of that as you came to an anxiety forum for help. Your doctor is absolutely right. We read this same story hundreds of times a day. Your fears are classic anxiety. Are you taking the meds? Are they anti nxiety meds?

We know how you are feeling because we have all been there, Aria. If you will take the time to read through the many threads of conversations, it will be of great benefit.

As people answer your post, do yourself and your poor body a favor, and listen to them, sweetie, they know what they are talking about. I'm sure you will be hearing from others, so hang in there. You are in the right place.wink

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Thnx for replying! Is so tricky because what you experience is so real ! Especially now feeling so tired , dizzy like you are going to faint in every moment it's making my life so hard! Yes ,Doctor recommend anxiety medication but I'm still thinking to reassure that everything is ok with my heart!!!

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Aria, honey, you are doing what everyone does at the beginning. You are saying that EKG

                   ULTRA SOUND

                    BLOOD WORK

                    STRESS TEST

                    CAT SCAN

are all wrong. Does that even make sense to you....at all? That all these machines, all these technitions and all these doctors are wrong, and that only you are right???  That is so typical of anxiety talking. You will continue to suffer (needlessly) until you accept the truth of anxiety and the way your mind lies to you.

You have to start someplace taking your life back. Right now, anxiety is controling you. I was serious about reading other threads. You will see that you, like all of us here, have to come to a place where we accept what is, so we can begin to live again.

Unfortunately, some poeple who come here just don't hear it, and keep trying to find someone who agrees with them. Fortunately, most come to recognize the truth they hear here, and move forward, many of which are now in this forum helping others. I am one of those, Aria.

By the way, tired, dizzy and feeling faint are all just more anxiety symptoms. smile Hugs

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Your story is just like mine I have been to multiple Doctors and had event monitor, ekgs, ultrasound, echocardiogram, blood work, holter monitor, stress test all came back normal. I also get chest pain, shoulder and arm pain, heart racing, dizzy, feeling like I'm gonna die from a heart attack and all the doctors say it's anxiety and I believe they are wrong . I really believe they are missing something or the test are wrong. I can not be anxious about anything and my chest hurt. I'm 27 and mother of five.

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They arent missing anything, you need to understand what and why you get panic attacks,have you ever searched panic disorder? Utube has videos on it. This might help you realize that a panic disorder is a diagnosis and comes with awful symptoms.  You are two years later so by now you should unfortunately be very familiar with it all.Denial usually wears off by the end of the first year. Not everyone uses anxiety meds, its a choice. If you cant function because of the severe anxiety then the choice is a bit easier.  Its always good when you come on these forums to take maybe fifteen minutes and go thru some forums and see if you relate. Many are very very similiar and because there are people popping in and out of the forum you can get lots if other people experiences and treatments that worked for them. Even learn new tools and skills that can be used to helo you learn to self calm. You will need to change your diet to remove all drinks or foods that stimulate you (caffiene, high sugars..etc..)  you need to accept you have a disorder and get into therapy to helo you accept and deal with this. Cbt courses are very useful but only after you accept the diagnosis and are willing to make a commitment to using it. It helps rationalize out thoughts properly. Keep hydrated, half your body weight in water in iunces a day. The body functions properly when hydrated. Keep your sugar levels balanced, if you cant eat drink nutritional shakes, dont feed into the fear anymore,when the palps and racing and all the classic oanic symptoms rush thru you, know it is an adrenaline rush your mind triggered off by deciding you are in danger. Because you have soent the last two years in denial your body has become accustomed to rewarding the panic attacks so they are now preprogrammed into you. Many connections have been made. Like a bad habit sort of speak. This all needs to be acknowledged and cbt can help with that part. It is a slow going thing. You can feel good then boom its back. It will be a part of you so you need to learn to manage it and never deny it for what it is and not fear it. You feed this that way. It wont tolerate being ignored it is a fight or flight response that you are in danger so it shoots out adrenaline, epineoherine and cortisol thru you that effects 70 percent of the body at a pop.many symotoms will occur. It is real but the danger is not  real and the organs are fine.  So thats whats going on you. *You do not have a mysterious rare disease. Your heart is great.   do yourself a huge favor and accept the diagnosis so you can begin to retrain yourself in how to deal with and manage it. Its challenging. Over time and all kinds of weird symptoms will pop in and out.. you will get a better idea of how to manage it all. Theres no cure. Science hasnt figured it all out yet but have labeled it as it is so common.   You want your kids to learn proper coping skills and  you dont want to teach them this fear. That happens this runs in families gentically and learned. A really great idea is to do family yoga. They have videos and actual classes. What a great gift for all of you. all learn proper breathing and how to calm your bodies. I think they start kids at about three. best gift ever. 

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Hi and welcome, Aria.

Your doctors have done numerous tests on your heart and are monitoring you closely. All results have been normal.

That's the good news.

The bad is that you seem to have health anxiety disorder which will not kill you, but will make your life miserable until you learn how to manage it. CBT is usually very helpful.

Let us know how you're getting on!        xx Tess

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Oh Cia! Dearest!

This response should automatically be posted as a first response to everyone on this forum!

Beautiful! Succinct! Truthful!

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Thanks Sweetheart, Helen. On re reading it before I sent it, I was wondering if I was becoming Simon Cowell on Britain's/America's Got Talent. He can be a bit acerbic. I appreciate your reponse.

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Not one single word of your response was unkind, Cia. It shone with the truth, every word written to help not to hurt.

Yes, sometimes the truth can be cruel...But it is far more cruel and far more dangerous to lie for the sake of giving someone that which they wish to hear as opposed to the reality of the situation.

We strive to help not to appease and you did that so beautifully.

Hugs and more hugs.

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Right back atcha, dear Helen.

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Hi! Thnx everybody for replying ! It's hard to believe that anxiety can cause so many symptoms and make your life so hard ! I also have been multiple times in er and they haven't find nothing at all! I didn't t want to start medications I thought I can fight on my oun but it's making harder! I'm experience all kind of different symptoms like shorteness of breathe , feeling weak , tired , dizzy that feeling of you are floating on a boat especially when I'm outside in stores!i have an appointment with the cardiologist next month to reassure that my heart is healthy and I'm thinking to give a try to medications for anxiety that Doctor recommend! šŸ˜•

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After all that's been said, after all the encouragement, after all the testing....I just can't believe that you are going back again for heart check.

Your post of ten minutes ago, sounds like you are dismissing everything these wonderful people are telling you...from their personal experience.

In my private practice, from which I am now retired, we basically had two catagories of patient. Those who wanted to cling to their present situation and the story, and those who were truly ready to give up the old story and begin to write a new story. We called the first group...defenders (of the old story) and the second group surrenderers (of their old story.)

Sometimes it took two or three visits to see which a new client was,, but usually, we knew by the end of the first visit. Then we would meet to decide if we could actually help them or not.

You, Aria need to decide if you are going to stay with your familiar story of fear, distress, hopelessness and despair, or let yourself be helped to write a new story of joy, confidence, hope and enthusiasm. Only you can make this decision...which story do you want to live with for the rest of your life?

Defeat or victory.....we can encourage, educate and cheer you on. But you are the one who has to ultimately decide. Which persona do I want to be, to live with, to nurture...for the rest of my earthly days?

The ball is in your court and we are on the sidelines cheering you on. We all want to see a winner on the court, Darlin' Aria

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It never fails to amaze me how stubbornly some people cling to the notion that they have some terminal illness or other.

It's as though they totally disregard the knowledge and experiences of those who come forward to help them. One would think they would draw a sense of relief and comfort from the Forum, but no.

This continuing googling of heart diseases/cancer and so on and so forth, this frightening of one's self, this  self-inflicted exacerbation of  anxiety symptoms dumbfounds me One would think any googling would be concentrated in the area where the real problem is, ie, anxiety/depression and it's many offshoots

This is not, by the way, a direct criticism of  any one individual but a general observation. I see the same pattern time and time again

It's very difficult, frustrating, trying to help those whose minds are quite literally closed. It is also very sad too.

I can only surmise it is part of their illness because quite frankly I cannot reach any other conclusion.

I suppose, Cia, I am feeling a bit disheartened right now. I know, I know many brave souls have stepped on the road to recovery because of the Forum, because of the wonderful people, themselves who have or continue to suffer, have reached out and given their all.

I'm beginning to think some people don't want help, they don't like it when we don't tell them what they want to hear.That in itself worries me.

Maybe I should take a step back?  Because I read some posts and I feel impatient. I'm quite ashamed to say that but I'm trying to be honest here. Impatience is not a good thing when people need help. I'm no use to anyone like that....hope that doesn't sound like self pity. But I'm struggling here..not with everyone, I hasten to add, just a few. But  even a few is far too many sad

I need your wise guidance, Cia

 

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It is an illness. I dont think everyone comes on here for help to be honest. Some come for help, easily spottable. Some come here for comfort, some come on here to vent. Some come in here just incase a cure exists and someone else knows it and some come on here you see if in fact the mysterious rare disease has been diagnosed by someone. saying that everyone who comes in this froum does come here to one main thing..to recieve compassion. .I can guarantee you the advice you have given will be revisited by some of the people when they are in a place to be capable of accepting it. Is it frustrating..but it is what it is. You cant speed up the stages that so many need to walk thru before they reach the level of acceptance. Its like grief when someone passes you cant say ok they passed, its sad now get over here what you need to live and then  they jump in both feet all ready and start living. It doesnt work. Will they get to that stage..yes. But when they are ready. They arent looking for self pity, but it sad for everysingle person here, including me ..it is. For the ones you can help, help them. For the ones who arent ready for the help, gkve the advice and know when they are ready they will take it. Like i said everyones on here for various reasons, in various stages but always give compassion. It is what you would want, it is what they want it is what we all need. You are a wonderful person and have a lot to offer and you need to keep being you and stay here because You have a lot to offer, and maybe recieve. You just do not know who you are helping and who can help you. (This is for anyone on here) 

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Oh Lisa! Thank you dearest smile

You have put it all into context. I think I was worrying because I am, as I say,  cursed with dreafull impatience but I do have grace enough to feel ashamed of being so. It's not a pleasant fault to have and I do try to curb it.

I was afraid my impatience was clouding my empathy somewhat, well it was if I'm truly honest sad

I shall try to be a better person and not so judgemental.

Thank you so very much!

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You are a wonderfult person! Rememeber that

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I send you hugs dearest. I feel so much better now. I shall wake in the morning with new determination... I can scarcely control my impatience, lol, to become the new me!

xxxx

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Listen that applys to everone.