Why is Alcohol my best friend and my worst enemy?

Hi back again you must be fed up with me.I'm fed up with me.had to reset password took forever-now I won't remember new one !  I cannot catch a bus to Hospital I cannot walk to bus stop.Hubby cleaning or cutting grass.so too busy to take me !  He is fed up with me as well. Would appreciate some answers to my question.I think i am just Lonley.I wish I had some friends.Sorry for the self pity. Right now you are my only friends.Love Sue x

Hi Susan

Not fed up with you - I understand the way you are feeling.  Which question in particular were you looking for an answer for?  Might be worth searching for Inclusion in your local area?  They helped me sort my detox and I feel so much better now.  If you were to go to the hospital - what would you be saying to them?  Have you drunk anything today?  Some hospitals have a dedicated alcohol nurse section so might be worth a google - I'd look for you but I don't know where you are.  Will always be here to support you when I can. Lorna x

Hi. We are all here for you as you will be for others once you get better and decide that you are much happier when sober. 

Firstly you must start tapering to stay safe(have written about how in a previous post so remember to keep looking at what friends on here are saying. You really have to make an appointment with your doctor on Monday. Could you take someone you trust with you? Or write down exactly what you want to say, give it to the dr to read( or post a day or two before you go so he/she understand that you are really serious and want to get better. If you are very lucky they will prescribe diazepam and anti nausea tablets to help, though you can buy those over the counter. 

The hospital staff will only help you,plus mental health nurse, if you are practically dead. Otherwise they will send you home once you've sobered up( I've been chucked out in the middle of night a couple of times and they are rarely sympathetic. Though it might be different in your area. 

Be prepared while detoxing ie correct meds, loads of water, vits which you've said you have, lucozade, soft drinks you like, fruit, veg, crackers and healthy meals. Pamper yourself while recovering in early days like watching fav tv programmes, good books, relaxation CDs etc.

You can do it smile xx

 

Can't buy diazepam over counter tho!

Hi Susan,

I'm new to the forum but would like to offer any help or support I can, even just someone to talk to if you feel lonely.

Agree with paper fairy it's time to start making that plan and taking steps to get yourself in a better place.

Have you drank at all today?

Hi Sue,

I totally get you about drinking because of lonlieness. Often thats what sets me off, and I end up going out and talking to people - anyone - in pubs/clubs/bars. Sometimes they get really sick of me and tell me where to go, sometimes I am asked to leave the premises, sometimes they are friendly, and sometimes I have got invited back somewhere to carry on drinking or whatever.  Worst case scenarios - ending up in hospital - have done that often enough, or arrested, or attacked/robbed.   No hospitals are not very sympathetic, especially if they have you on record as being an alcoholic, and I have been woken up and chucked out in the middle of the night several times, after being taken there by ambulance.

Whatever the outcome is, its a no-win situation from any angle. 

The addiction agencies will definitely help you to start cutting down in stages. The one I was going to - Lifeline - did this, and it seems to work if people really want it to.  They also have group meetings which is good and supportive. If you go to youre Dr, they would probably refer you to the nearest addiction agency anyway. Lots of Luck.

I too am under lifeline ursulauc, frustratingly feels like a slow process, but after speaking to the people in the waiting room it pays to stick with them - which I am doing.

Doctors were hopeless, again they don't see it as an illness just addiction and we should help ourselves. After reading up and watching a lot of documentaries I can't believe addicts are treated the way they are. I too was subjected to feeling worthless and having to stand up and admit I'm a failure, when there is a better and more successful way to handle things. Paul has been fundamental in changing my view of myself and my addiction and I'm grateful for that.

I have heard one forum user talk about the benefits of finding a forum like this and knowing there is a way out and how we should pity the people who aren't afforded the liberty to find a site like this, I wholeheartedly agree. We're not the dregs of society - no one sets out to be an addict, anyone will tell you that.

We certainly seem to be treated as worthless by 'the authorities', - medical profession - even in quite subtle ways that they might not even realize.

Last time I saw a psychiatrist - I have been seeing one every few months after being an inpatient in a psychiatric unit for a short time - I was sent a copy of the letter to my GP, which said I 'had a limited insight into my problem' - i.e. the alcoholism. I would strongly dispute this, and probably wont attend my next appt. Psychiatrists can be pretty patronising and offensive.

Not fed up with you, Susan, not in the least. Always feel free to come here and say how it is for you!

For you and me and millions of others with Alcohol Use Disorder, alcohol becomes the brain's "favorite toy" that it turns to frequently and will continue to turn to, until you can show it that the "toy" is broken and doesn't work anymore. It's "learned" this over thousands of days of drinking, but there are steps you can take to help it "forget" that alcohol is something that it craves, something that makes it happy. If you're like me, logic and reason will not convince it in the least and if you look around, you'll find plenty of others that continue to drink in the face of all logic and reason. That's because you can't access that part of the brain with those tools. For others, that works just fine, but not for me (and I suspect not for you either). If you haven't seen CThree Europe's post about this, have a look:

https://patient.info/health/sinclair-method-for-alcohol-use-disorder

That's one way and it has a very good success rate. RHGB knows a fair bit about Campral, which can be a good way to go as well. 

In any case, keep at it, keep posting and remember that your friends will always be here to listen to you!

If you are referring to me, BK522, and things I have said have helped you re-evaulate yourself positively, I am delighted

*Re-evaluate

I know how it feels to have everyone fed up...my kids..my parents...in my case everyone was just frightened...A friend of mine told me she checked the obits everyday in our town looking for me (we haven't talked in over a year).

​I hope your husband is just scared too...because otherwise...to NOT take your wife when she needs medical care...is just rotten.

​And I know that my b/f is not really educated on the dangerous effects alcohol can have on a person if they suddenly stop drinking.

​I hope you can get yourself some care soon.  Its worth it susan...and you sound like you feel like a pain for coming here to chat???  You shouldn't people are always glad to see that you are stil around and still trying.

I indeed referring to you, thank you for everything you've said.

Very glad to have helped

Hi Susan 

Firstly, and I know other forum members will agree with me that no one here is, or will be fed up with you. So glad you found this forum, which for me personally, has been better than anywhere else.

I certainly know how you feel and can really empathise with you. You used the word lonely and I think I'm in the same position. I don't work now. Two of my three children have left home, although I have my four month old grandson once a week. I would never drink the day before he comes, and certainly not whilst he's with me. From 8am to 6pm I'm on my own. I've lost numerous 'friends'  through my drinking as I was always cancelling arrangements, sometimes even forgetting and not turning up. I highlighted friends because I've learnt that people who I thought were friends, and with whom I've confided in, aren't friends at all. However I have three very good friends who've stuck by me, helped and taken me here there and everywhere to appointments and clinics, but they also work.

Paper fairy, misssy and others have given more advice as to what to do now, like options, so I won't repeat them. They've said what could happen, medication, cbt etc etc.

What is your question sue, my iPad has been playing up, so may have missed it and the answers.

Whatever you decide, I can only reiterate that you shouldn't just stop alcohol. If you can't get a hospital or home detox, you need to taper gradually. You say your husband is fed up with you. Mine is just the same, he naturally gets very frustrated and disappointed, as do my grown up kids. They are all very supportive, but don't want me to taper off when the need arises, as they say I'm just saying it's dangerous because I want a drink. 

It is entirely up to you if you go to hospital or not, but if you do, don't be surprised if they don't offer help, support or medication.

I'm sorry for rambling on, but it's 4am and I can't sleep, but would suggest you look into taking acamprosate (campral) which is an anti craving drug. Maybe you could try to aim for it. You don't drink at all with it, unlike naltrexone and nalfemene, but then again it might be hard to get someone to prescribe it.

Lastly, never think we're judgemental here, we've all had different experiences with alcohol, and no-one's fed up with you.

good luck

 

Glad to be a friend Sue.  Would never, ever be fed up of you.  You can be as self-pitying as you like on here, we understand.

Take care and know that we care.

Pat.xxxxx

Ursulauc

Why don't you leave the booze for a couple of days or a day. Go to your next appointment sober and say politely I very nearly didn't come for this appointment as your comment to my GP upset me.

Explain that you are very aware you have a drink problem, otherwise what am I doing here? But you have to be completely honest. If you find this particular psychiatrist  offensive the next time you see him/her ask if you can see someone else.

Dont just do a DNA (did not attend) as it will go to your GP and be on your medical notes that you were offered help but didn't bother going

I wonder too, if that isn't a routine that Psychiatrists use to "ping" you and get underlying stuff to surface. Kind of like a one-man "good cop / bad cop" routine. After all, if there were one profession that would know how to get someone "plugged in", that would be the one.

Psychiatrists in my experience, are like marmite, you either love them or hate them. The very nature of their job is to get you to open up. However like all of us they have different traits and are not 'one size fits all'

I had a brilliant one who I could natter away to about anything, drinking, family problems, anxiety, you name it. I saw him for five years then he  left.

The next one, I honestly couldn't understand a word he said. All I did was say pardon the whole time. I did manage to get the word deaf. After about ten minutes I'd had enough, he couldn't speak English properly, end of! I just stood up and said this is wasting my time and yours, forget it. Went to reception and asked for someone I could understand.

Its bad enough with a GP or any doctor who can't make him/herself understood, but it's a double wammy when it's a psychiatrist.

i agree with you that they are trying to drag stuff out of you without you realising it. You have to be totally honest, waste of time saying I've only had a glass of wine all week, when you've had 12 or more ( just so you can get a driving licence back)

Hey, I dont drink - I havent drunk regularly for years.  I have a problem where I binge sometimes for a couple of days.  I have gone for months without drinking many times.   I have no desire to drink right now, and cant envisage that I will any time soon, although yes - I admit - I have said that in the past.